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April 21, 2018 – Double the Dead with Catch-up & a Side of Random Thoughts

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What I Watched Today

(rambling, random thoughts & annoyingly detailed recaps from real time TV watching)

 

I couldn’t do this last week because the wind blew my internet away. But now, I’m all caught up, and if you weren’t, you will be too. Sorry for the different tenses between shows. It just came out that way.

The Walking Dead

Rick wondered how it happened that Carl got bit. Siddiq explained that his mom believed the dead’s souls were trapped. Carl wanted to honor her to gain Siddiq’s trust, and died paying respects to a woman he never knew. Siddiq had a brainfart, and forgot it was dangerous. Which didn’t exactly answer the question.

Ezekiel told Jerry to justify what they’ve lost, be prepared to lose everything. but they weren’t going to lose sh*t. Daryl still thought Dwight could be setting them up. Morgan got weird, thinking that something was happening, and nearly skewered Henry with his pokey stick. Maggie wouldn’t let the stray Saviors come along for the battle. Morgan insisted on coming, even though Rick was skeptical. Morgan said they were worse than they were, and it was wrong for Rick to have given his word, then double-cross the renegade Saviors. They lost everything good, and can’t go back. Morgan wanted to finish it.

Negan told Dwight that he had nothing, and told his guys to load Dwight up. Eugene personally checked and quality controlled all of the ammunition, and Negan tested it on an effigy of Rick. Eugene suggested a one-fell swooper. Negan decided Gabriel should tag along; he had things to confess.

Negan set up a roadblock, using his own people as bait. He told Gabriel that Rick thought he got the real story. Now he’ll find the map with the time and place, and believe it, because he’s going to kill everyone who could have told him otherwise. Sure enough, Rick kills them all, even the last guy begging for his life. Morgan saw Jared in a vision, and he told Morgan that he should try dying sometime. Ezekiel found the map on one of the dead Saviors, and Carol figured they could get to Negan before he knew what happened.

Gabriel was surprised that Negan wanted to kill everyone; he’d thought Negan didn’t want that to happen. Negan told him it wasn’t about want; it never was. Gabriel bounced out of the moving car, but Eugene helped hunt him down. Negan remembered Gabriel saying he didn’t want to die a fruitless death, and told him you can’t always get what you want, while I got a Rolling Stones earworm. He told Eugene to put Gabriel back in the car.

Jesus tried to explain the conundrum of safety to Morgan, and proposed the pokey end of his stick for the dead, and the blunt end for the living. When Rick and company came out into the open, they heard whistling. It looked like the Saviors had Rick’s people outnumbered by about 300%. Negan said he met Rick’s ambush with a bigger one, and to come out and face them. He wanted to make it fun, so he brought some old friends. He told them that Eugene made today possible; the same with Dwight. He told Dwight he was going to watch them die, and live with that. He was going to clean house, starting with Gabriel. He told Rick there never had to be a fight, if he’d just accepted how things are. Negan started to count down, and they looked like the Jun horde from The Beastmaster coming over the top of the mountain.

They joke was on them, because Eugene had quality controlled the bullets to shoot backward, and they shot themselves. Pretty good trick. Rick announced the charge, and there was lots of shooting, but Negan took off. The ex-Saviors Maggie didn’t want there came anyway. A bunch of Saviors who came out of nowhere, nearly nailed the group, but got blown up by the Oceansiders, who’d decided to join in too. The remaining Saviors kneeled in front of Maggie, and said, it’s over.

Rick went after Negan on his own, but ran out of bullets. They kicked each other’s asses for a while, by the tree where Carl is buried. During a break, Negan told Rick he was bullsh*tting with the eenie, meenie, minie, mo business in the beginning. He just didn’t want to kill a kid’s dad in front of him, but if he had, the kid might still be alive. Negan always makes good points. He told Rick he’s bigger, badder, and has a bat. Rick wanted to talk about the future. He told Negan that Carl said there didn’t have to be a fight. Despite looking somewhat weepy, Negan said Carl was wrong, and Rick slit his throat. Surprising the hell out of me, and probably everyone else, although somehow, it seemed anti-climactic and rude.

Everyone was like, whoa, and then, now what? Rick said Negan was still alive, and told Siddiq to save him. Maggie freaked out, saying they had to end it, and it wasn’t over until Negan was dead. Rick said they were all going home. Negan might be alive, but his way of doing things was over. Anyone who couldn’t live with it would pay the price. He said they were going to live in peace and fairness, and find common ground. The world was theirs, but others would come for them unless they stood together. The new world was going to begin, and there had to be something after. Rosita gave props to Eugene for the sabotage, but punched him in the face anyway for the puke.

Morgan gave Carol his pseudo armor for Henry, and walked off. Rick got teary, as Rick is wont to do these days, and said, mercy prevails over the land. He sat where Carl was buried, and cried.

The ex-Saviors decided to go back to the Sanctuary, hoping to get something out of it.  The guy whose name I can never remember told Maggie that he’d been reading the book, and could make some things. He has a passion for building things, and said she gave him his life.

Daryl took Dwight to the woods. Dwight started crying and saying he knew what he did, and knew he’d have to face it and pay. He was ready; it was enough to see Negan taken down. He cried, saying how sorry he was, and Daryl told him to shut up. He tossed Dwight some car keys, and said to keep going. If he saw Dwight again, he’d kill him. As Dwight walked away, Daryl told him to find her. I assumed he meant Sherry.

Gymboree Jadis was reading at the trash heap when Morgan showed up. He told her that Rick said she could come back if she wanted. He explained that Rick wanted to show people that things can change, and needed all the hands he could get. He told her that she didn’t want to be alone, and everything in life worth a damn, is people. She told him her name is Ann, which was kind of a let-down. He told her he needed to be alone, and go back without him, which made perfect sense considering what he’d just said.

Dwight went back home to the cabin in the woods (no, not that one), where he found a note. it just said honeymoon, with an infinity symbol below it.

In Maggie’s office, she told Jesus that he was right. She had no regrets, but he and Rick were right. Rick wasn’t right about Negan though. She said they had to make it thrive for the people who live there. They needed strength, and the ability to defend themselves better, but RIck was wrong; Michonne too. She said they were going to bide their time, wait for the right moment, and then show him. Daryl came out of the shadows, and said, yeah, they will. I don’t like this.

Negan woke up, his neck bandaged, handcuffed to a bed. Michonne said she needed to tell him some things. They planned on making him watch what happens. Rick said it wasn’t about who he killed, but what he did to so many, making them live for him and putting them under the boot. Negan struggled to say, he saves people, and Michonne put her hand on his throat. Rick suggested they could open his stitches for a while. Rick said Carl pitched something better; working together for something bigger than all of them. Michonne added, being an example. They weren’t going to kill or hurt him, but his fate was to rot in a cell for the rest of his life, evidence that they’re making and getting back a civilization like they had. He’ll get to see how wrong he was about what people and life can be. They’ll show people things changed by keeping him breathing. Michonne said after all this, he’s good for something.

Gabriel went to the burned out church and thanked God. He said he understood, and knew now. He’s been given so much, and now he can see.

Rick wrote to Carl. As he wrote, we saw them in the old days, walking down a road. He told Carl that he forgot who he was, and Carl made him remember. He remembered walking with him, and knew who he was for the first time. They were walking side by side, but Carl was bringing him somewhere. To the new world. He made it real. Rick sees it and remembers. Officer Rick and little Carl continued to walk down the road.

Moving right into…

Fear the Walking Dead

Out in the middle of nowhere, a man stands by a truck. He hears something, and asks if anyone is there. He longs to hear someone else’s voice, and suggests they come out and have something to eat. He talks about his life before, and says he can make popcorn. He also has books. He says, since no one is there, before he goes quiet again for another year, he has a story. He talked to a woman who showed up. He let her stay. They had feelings for each other, and one day, they allowed it. He hoped by saying it, he would see it. He did. It was nice, and there hasn’t been a lot of nice. We hear a zombie. The man shoots it, and we see Morgan just behind. The man introduces himself as John Dory, like the fish. He asks Morgan what’s his story?

Morgan is at the trash heap. Jesus knocks at the entrance. He thought they could continue their acquaintance. He insists Morgan cares about people, and tries to get him to come back.

Morgan is alone again. There’s another knock at the entrance, and this time it’s Carol. She asks him to come back. He helped her, so let her help him. She’s not going to tell him what to do, but he belongs with people who care about him.

Again, Morgan is alone. Rick shows up, and says he can hide, but he can’t run. He wouldn’t be alive if not for Morgan. Rick was hurt, and Morgan brought him in. Morgan wasn’t shot, but he’s been hurt. He asks Morgan to come back, and not to waste another second. He’s alive and part of the world. A lot of people are there because he helped them. Morgan says that’s not him anymore. Rick disagrees, saying he’ll end up with people one way or another. He’s part of the world already, so just come back. Rick leaves.

Morgan packs up his stuff, and gets his stick. He takes a long last look at the trash, and moves on down the road. He thinks about Rick’s words, and starts to run. He hotwires a car, and the gas tank is miraculously full. He walks some more. He sees a group of people, and avoids them. He finds another car, and drives again. He goes into a town and sees a cluster of zombies.

He opens a car to find someone who’s sick and shaky. He starts to leave some supplies, but the guy doesn’t want them. Morgan says, sorry. He thought the guy was on his own. The guy says, we all are. Morgan moves along, and it starts to rain.

Morgan comes up behind a zombie in the woods. A shot rings out, the zombie falls, and we’re back to the beginning. John tells Morgan he’d like company, but Morgan is hesitant. John asks if he’s seen a woman with a pistol like his; he’s looking for her. Morgan says he hasn’t, and starts to leave, but John suggests he stay the night; he can take the back of the truck. Morgan sees the wisdom in a good night’s rest. He slips out later while John is snoring.

Morgan finds a tent with a lantern lighting the inside. He sets down his stick and gets whacked in the head. I jump a mile.

Dude tells Morgan, whatever he’s thinking, don’t. Morgan says keep the food, and he’ll go. Dude doesn’t want him telling no one. Morgan says he has no one to tell, and doesn’t want to know anyone. John is suddenly there, and shoots dude in the arm. He says he’s looking out for his friend, and dude says he has friends too. They’re surrounded, and John says now he got himself captured. He’s reminiscent of Eugene in how he speaks.

A big ass truck drives into the tent city, or whatever it is. The woman behind the wheel asks what’s going on, and remarks they have new people. She likes new people. She has a cake and some Cup O’Noodles, the good kind, and she’ll throw in some Pall Malls. Apparently, dude likes Pall Malls. She opens the hatch of the truck to reveal a couple of machine guns. She tells dude, there’s always a choice, and this is an easy one. Morgan and John get in the truck.

The woman’s name is Althea; Al for short. John asks if she’s an officer of the law, and she says, not exactly. She tells them that they owe her. She didn’t save them out of the goodness of her heart. John draws his gun, but she says she just wants to ask them questions. What they’ve seen, who they’ve met, where they’ve been, and where they’re going. She tells them that she’s a journalist, pulls over, and picks up a video camera.

Al interviews John, who talks about Laura. Al asks how they got split up. He says it’s not a happy story, and gets vague. Morgan asks why it matters; there are no news stations anymore. She says he owes her. He tries to give her some food instead, but she only wants his story. He just wants to go. John gives him some clean socks for the road.

Dude comes back with his friends to hassle Al. They want the truck. Dude asks for Morgan’s stick. Morgan slams him with it, and he and john get the better of dude and several of his guys. John gets his gun back. Morgan jumps onto a truck, and John inadvertently lets a bunch of zombies loose. Dude tries to steal Al’s truck, but doesn’t have the keys. Al flings them away, and dude tries to run for them, but a zombie goes after him. Morgan gets shot in the leg by a sniper, who’s been a bad shot up until now. Morgan knocks him around on the roof. The sniper falls off, but hangs onto the ledge, dangling above a gaggle of zombies. Morgan holds out his hand, and pulls him back up. As thanks, the sniper punches Morgan. This is a good example of no good deed going unpunished. They both tumble through the roof. No surprise, Morgan does not help a second time, and gets the hell out. He throws a grenade or something, ducks, and the room blows up. He goes back outside.

John and Morgan shoot and pike zombies. Dude harasses Al for the keys until John finally shoots him, and leaves him for zombie food. Al gets in her truck, opens up the guns, and kills the rest of the zombies. And they all lived happily ever after. Not quite, but they lived.

Al says Morgan still owes her. He tells her to pull over. She films as he talks about Alexandria and the Kingdom. He says there was a big fight, but he left before he left. She asks why he left, but he thinks she should talk. He asks why it’s important, but she doesn’t want to return the favor. She says one real thing, and they’re even. Why did he leave? He tells her that he loses people, then he loses himself. He starts walking down the road again.

Morgan sees the station wagon the sick guy was in, and sees someone walking in the distance. He follows them, but some zombies, feeding by the side of the road, decide to follow Morgan. Since his leg was injured in the fight, he can’t go too fast, and he falls. They’re on him, but John appears once again, and pikes them in the heads.

Morgan needs to know who it is walking up the road. I guess he’s hoping the guy made it, but that’s a no, and he ends up spearing now-zombie guy in the head with his stick. He says he’ll travel with them until his leg heals, and no asking questions. Al says she’s not going to stop, and he says, no answers then. John says she’s taking him to look for Laura in exchange for more story.

Al sees someone in the middle of the road. Both Morgan and John inform her that they don’t kill. She tells them it’s a great moment to share that information. It’s a girl, hunched over. Al asks if she’s injured, and tells Morgan to get the first aid kit. The girl says there are bad people there, then grabs Al in a headlock. It’s Alicia. Victor, Madison, ♫ and the rest ♫, come out from the forest. Al asks what Alicia’s story is.

And there we have it. Until tomorrow night.

🔎 An Observation…

Andrew Lincoln always looks like a businessman on an interview when he’s a guest on Talking Dead.

🎬 Another Thing I Watched…

Mourning Son is a 2015 documentary about the murder of Dave Navarro’s mother, and how it’s affected him throughout his life. It’s also a glimpse into what an incredible artist he is. I had no idea about his background, but always thought he was a very honest and kind man. When Bill Maher was hosting Politically Incorrect – before he fully turned into a mean curmudgeon, and was just working on it – I saw Dave put him in his place when he was talking out of his ass. I’ve admired him ever since. Even more so after seeing this excellent film.

🎆 Right now, I’m (finally) watching Girl’s Trip, and between this and Star, can confirm that Queen Latifah wears more fabulous wigs than the entire cast of The Real Housewives of Atlanta put together.

🛀 Enjoy the Remaining Weekend Like…

Minions

July 5, 2017 – Sam Goes Over the Edge, a Toast to Friendship & Some Odds & Ends

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What I Watched Today

(rambling, random thoughts & annoyingly detailed recaps from real time TV watching)

 

 

General Hospital

Sonny goes through some paperwork, and thinks he’s found the exit ramp he’s looking for.

Jason takes Sam to the doctor. He says whatever it is, even if it’s nothing, they’re in this together. Sonny texts, asking if he’s free.

Molly and Alexis meet TJ and Aunt Stella for dinner.

Jordan tells Curtis that Obrecht is awaiting arraignment. Curtis asks if she wants to celebrate, but she says she has to arrest him too.

Anna and Andre have apparently danced through the holiday weekend. He asks if she feels better, and she suggests putting a dance floor in his office. She asks if he’s good, and he kisses her. I guess that answers her question.

Nina gets a call and says she’ll accept it. It’s Valentin calling from The Hauge in the Netherlands. He says it’s good to hear her voice. Nina asks how it’s possible, and he says he gets the occasional phone call. He called Charlotte, but it went to voicemail. She wonders if he called for her to give a message to Charlotte, but he says he misses her and loves her. She asks if a trial date has been set, and he tells her that there isn’t going to be one.

Andre tells Anna they should forget it happened, and Anna asks if that’s what he wants. If not, maybe they can go back to her place.

Jason tells Sam that he’ll call Sonny later. Sam hates that Jason is worried about her. The doctor comes out, introducing himself as Dr. David Bench. He says he prefers to meet with Sam alone, and she suggests Jason find out what Sonny wanted; it might be good news for a change.

Stella is happy to get to know Alexis, and looks forward to meeting the rest of the family. Alexis asks if she has kids, and Stella says her sister’s kids are enough. She wonders where Curtis is, and TJ says he couldn’t make it; he’s working.

Jordan tells Curtis that she has no choice but to arrest him for unlawful access to medical records. Curtis is flabbergasted, and says that Monica set it up. He realizes that Jordan is teasing him, and she says she got him good. He asks her to come have a drink with him. She says one drink. He says, and nothing more, but in the next scene, they’re at her place, getting busy. And there’s a song part. You know when there’s music with lyrics playing, things are serious.

Stella tells Alexis that she thinks TJ is trying to cover up that she and Curtis had a rough patch. Having three daughters, Alexis says she knows all about rough patches. She adds that Curtis is probably working on a case. Her son-in-law works with him occasionally.

Jordan tells Curtis that it was a mistake. Curtis says that she’s denying how she really feels. The past is the past, and they deserve happiness. She tells him to try telling that to Stella. He says Stella’s feelings aren’t the only ones to consider. TJ is cool with them, and they can’t deny how they feel. He says they can’t live their life looking backwards, and if it offends Stella, she’ll have to live with it. He thinks they’re on the verge of building something special, and doesn’t want to give it up

Nina asks if he’s cutting a deal, but Valentin says no. He says that he’s not going to make it through the preliminaries. The Chimera’s existence embarrasses the WSB, and they’re going to make him disappear. She says if anything like that happens, she’ll contact all of the publishers she knows, in addition to splashing it on the cover of Crimson. Valentin tells her that she’ll only bring trouble to herself, and all she should reveal is that he was arrested and she cut him out of her life. He’s sorry he had Charlotte believe he was coming back; it was the wish of a desperate father. He apologizes for bothering her, but wanted to hear her voice. He hangs up.

Andre tells Anna that he dislikes scrutinizing a moment to death when not on the clock, but doesn’t want to ruin a good thing for a night of satisfaction. Anna’s phone rings. It’s Nina. She says she needs to talk to her about Valentin.

Dr. Bench asks Sam what the problem is, and she says that Jason wanted her to get checked out. They’ve been having disagreements and she’s been more short-tempered than usual. He says it could be lack of sleep, and wonders if there’s anything else. She says she thinks there is something in her life that’s off.

Jason goes to Pozzulo’s. Sonny thanks him for the warning about the Garvster, who is now in the hospital, but will be going to prison. He says he’s making a decision, and wants Jason to know first. He’s giving up the territory and getting out of the business.

At Nina’s office, Nina tells Anna that Valentin told her he wouldn’t live to stand trial, and the WSB will make him disappear to avoid publicity. She says she doesn’t understand. Aren’t they the good guys? Would they really kill him, and what can they do to stop it?

Stella compliments Alexis on how she raised Molly, and Alexis says TJ is no slouch either. Alexis says she has a tendency to swoop in and “save” her kids, but made a promise to keep her nose out of it. Stella asks what she would do if one of her daughters was responsible for another daughter’s death, and if she wouldn’t interfere.

Jordan says that Curtis is the one who will pay for it if they ignore Stella’s feelings. He says she may raise some hell, but she’ll come around eventually. Jordan doesn’t think she’s going to get past it anytime soon. He says that she’s not the only stubborn one in the family, and he’s chosen Jordan.

Sam tells Dr. Bench that she doesn’t feel like herself, but he wants her to be more specific. He asks what was going on the last time she felt like that. In her head, she tells herself to be careful or she’ll get sent away. She tells him about how her opinion changed on something, and it’s caused her and Jason to clash more. The doctor says he can’t say there’s nothing wrong yet, and asks if she’s familiar with postpartum depression. He suggests a blood test.

Sonny tells Jason that it’s been a long time coming, and that he and Carly changed their minds about the divorce. He decided that if they survived, he would leave the business. He says he’s starting a new life like Jason did. Jason asks what makes him think he can pull it off, and Sonny asks if he doubts his sincerity or his ability. Jason says someone will want to take his place and might want to make sure he can’t come back. Sonny says he can’t keep trying to stay with the control and power if it means he’ll lose the people he loves. Life is too short. He knows it takes more than a resignation letter, but he has to do it. He says it has to be careful planning, and Jason says he needs a successor who won’t screw it up or come after him. He asks if that’s why he’s there.

Dr. Bench comes back with the initial results. Fastest. Lab. Tests. Ever. Sam has an iron deficiency, and he tells her that it can cause physical symptoms that possibly affect moods. He wants her to schedule another appointment for more tests. Sam sees Sonny in her head, and he tells her that what’s wrong with her can’t be fixed.

Stella and Alexis agree not to take a one size fits all approach to discussing each other’s families. Stella says she doesn’t interfere, but has a knack for making her feelings known to get the desired results. How that isn’t the same thing, I’m not sure. Curtis and Jordan walk into the restaurant together.

Anna tells Nina that Valentin has reason not to trust the WSB, but she knows the head guy, and he’d never make Valentin disappear. Nina says her understanding of the situation doesn’t matter, but Valentin does. If she hadn’t told Anna where he was, he, Nina, and Charlotte would all be together. What if she’s wrong, and they find out he disappeared? Who’s going to tell Charlotte that he’s never coming back?

Valentin writes Nina a thank you letter for the happiest months of his life. She gave him a chance to be better, and for a while he was. He’s sorry to have given her reasons to doubt him. He swears he loves her and always will. Their time together was a gift for both him and Charlotte. He says Charlotte will always have her, and begs Nina to stay in her life. He wishes he could have given both of them more.

Anna tells Nina that it’s espionage, plain and simple, and it’s a crime. Nina says it’s convenient that her friend is head of the WSB, and asks if he turned his head regarding her sister. Anna says that Nina has no idea what she’s saying. Nina says all she knows is that everything was amazing until Anna showed up, breaking into their house and accusing Valentin of all kinds of things, and then her sister took over. Now he’s in prison and thinks he’s going to die, and Anna says she should trust the bureau. Anna says they’re not going to kill him, but they’ll see him convicted. She advises Nina to distance herself. If he calls again, it might be better for both of them if she doesn’t pick up.

Alexis thanks Stella for the evening, and leaves. Stella tells Curtis that he just missed TJ and Molly, and he says he didn’t know they were having a family dinner. Stella sarcastically says that’s because he was working, and too bad he couldn’t make the time. He tells her that Molly and TJ don’t need any additional drama. He made the mistake of giving in to Stella’s every wish, but he’s corrected that mistake now.

Sonny tells Jason that he hasn’t figured it out yet. Whoever he chooses might come after Jason, and he says Jason should be ready for that. Jason sees a text from Sam saying that she’s been delayed at the hospital. Sonny toasts to a peaceful transition. He says who knows what’s coming next, and Jason says whatever it is, they’ll handle it.

In her head, Sonny tells Sam that the only way to solve the problem is to get rid of what’s distracting Jason. Dr. Bench gives Sam some advice and another appointment date. He tells her to call if she needs to come in sooner. He leaves, and as Sam is about to walk out, she eyeballs a tray of surgical instruments.

Andre sees Anna, and asks what brings her to the hospital. She says that she thought he’d be there, and stumbles over her words, saying that she thought they could pick up where they left off.

Nina looks at the family photo on her desk, and remembers when Valentin gave her the engagement ring. She takes off her wedding ring set.

Valentin folds the letter. A huge man comes in, and Valentin says he’s not the regular. Dude says he’s with the WSB. Valentin asks him to take the letter, but he says that’s not his job. He tells Valentin to stand up, and cuffs him.  He takes him out of the cell. I’m hoping that he’s an emissary from Alex.

Stella says that Curtis is treating the family with shame and disrespect. He tells her that she’ll have to respect he’s with Jordan. Jordan asks if they can’t co-exist respectfully for TJ’s sake. Stella suddenly keels over and falls to the floor.

Jason gets to the hospital, and Dr. Bench tells him that Sam left already.

Sam shows up at Pozzulo’s. Sonny tells her that she just missed Jason, but she says she came to see him. She wants to give him a gift. She pulls out a surgical scalpel, and stabs him repeatedly.

Tomorrow, a fire happens, Olivia-F has a bachelorette party, and Carly wants to talk to Josslyn about her father.

The Real Housewives of New York City

Ramona makes breakfast in Vermont. Dorinda’s stuff has finally arrived. She doesn’t want to go skiing with the others because she doesn’t want to be on the bunny hill with the six-year-olds, or injure herself before the Mexico trip.

Bethenny tells Tinsley that she has compassion for her. In her interview, she says that Tinsley seems like a mess, and she doesn’t want to add to it. Tinsley tells her that she felt like people wanted her to just get over it, but Bethenny tells her she should take whatever time she needs. Tinsley is happy that they’ve cleared the air.

Sonja tells Luann that she’s getting it that Luann is married; she’s transitioning. In her interview, Luann asks if this is a partouze, which is basically French for a threesome. She says that Sonja seems to act like her relationship is a joke and says inappropriate things. We flash back to Sonja talking about them having sex with the same guy (i.e. Tom). Sonja says she just wants to be herself, but it’s hard because inappropriateness comes with the territory. Luann wants an apology, but says Sonja won’t apologize to save her life. Sonja feels like she’s apologized enough, and complains to the others that she hates having rules, but she’s going to try for Luann. Dorinda suggests she drop it for the rest of the time they’re in Vermont, which is probably like waving a red flag at a bull.

Tinsley and Luann both have red ski jackets, and Luann thinks they look like a Swiss ski patrol. Ramona yaps about how much she’s been doing, and Dorinda says she took the Catholic guilt option and gave Ramona the bigger room. Everyone else leaves for skiing, and she breathes a sigh of relief.

Luann says it’s perfect weather for skiing – both snow and sunshine. Ramona isn’t a fan of East Coast skiing because it can be powdery on top, but icy underneath. She captures a young ski instructor to help her. In her interview, Sonja says Ramona can hot dog behind him on the slopes, but nothing romantic is going to happen. Luann thinks it’s a miracle that Ramona still has her clothes on.

Carole stays behind with Dorinda; she prefers going to the lodge. She tells Dorinda how nice it was of her to switch rooms with Ramona, and about how Luann complained about her room. Dorinda says married or not, first come, first served. She’s also annoyed with Sonja for the comments she’s made about Tom.

Luann complains on the ski lift about Sonja’s inappropriate (word of the day) comments. She says she thinks because Sonja has been single for so long, she’s forgotten how it works. In her interview, Luann talks about how Bethenny has SkinnyGirl everything, including a car. The instructor takes a picture for them, and in her interview Bethenny compares him and Ramona to a baby chicken and a barracuda.

Carole tells Dorinda that she feels like Tinsley was ganged up on. Dorinda says after leaving an abusive relationship, it’s like having PTSD. On the slopes, Ramona wishes Tinsley would get out of her way, because she wants the hill to herself. Bethenny is snowboarding, and says the trip couldn’t have come at a better time.

Dorinda says everybody handles their stuff differently. Carole says wannabe Jason is gaslighting Bethenny, even though she’s kept her mouth shut about him publicly. She shows Dorinda a Page Six article, and says that it’s a game changer. The suckerfish has been arrested for stalking, and the article talks about him showing up at Bryn’s school. Dorinda wonders if he’s lost his mind. No. He never had one. She doesn’t know how Bethenny holds it all together. Carole says she thought it would go away after the settlement, but it got worse, and he wouldn’t let up.

Ramona makes a point of telling the instructor that she’s single. In her interview, she thinks Bethenny is acting like they’re in middle school, and a question mark forms over my head. Because she’s snowboarding instead of skiing?

On the lift, Bethenny tells Tinsley that she couldn’t sleep because of anxiety over their conversation. She says the Mexico trip will be a challenge. Luann reminds Bethenny that she’s going to arrive later, giving Bethenny the idea to invite Ramona to come halfway through. Half of the trip will be good, and the other half will be psychotic.

Ramona drags the ski instructor back to the lodge. It turns out he’s from an area where Dorinda lived, and Ramona asks him to get her something to drink, because she doesn’t like his attention being divided. When he goes to the bar, Ramona says how sweet he is. Carole says he gets paid to be sweet, and in her interview, thinks Ramona is a rude flirt. After the instructor returns, Ramona wants him to get something for Dorinda, but Dorinda tells her that he’s not a waiter. In her interview, Dorinda says it’s awkward; he knows what’s going on, and it’s past cougar. Ramona makes a toast to how great everything is. Sonja asks if everyone is good, and Dorinda says yes, she feels her drinks kicking in.

Ramona thinks Bethenny is having difficulties. In her interview, Dorinda says she doesn’t like to pry, and goes by people’s reactions and actions. Bethenny isn’t sure how much to say, since there are some people she doesn’t trust. By that I think she means Ramona. Tinsley is on antidepressants, and in her interview, Carole says she’s not a shrink, but knows you’re not supposed to drink when you’re taking them. Dorinda and Bethenny discuss relationships. Bethenny says she’s private about certain things, and Dorinda tells her that if she wants to talk about it, she’s there. Tinsley is annoyed that Ramona has her bare feet on the coffee table. I would be too.

The ladies go back to their lodging. Carole tells Bethenny she confided in Dorinda, but noticed it’s blowing up anyway. I love Bethenny’s sweater, and wonder if she knitted it herself. In her interview, she says she just wants some relief and normalcy.

Luann tries to light a fire in the gas fireplace. At first it does nothing, then overcompensates. She wonders if she still has her eyebrows.

A few guys from a local restaurant arrive. Ramona met some restaurateurs on the mountain, and set up a dinner for the girls. Ramona does Sonja’s hair, and in her interview, Luann wonders if Ramona was kicked out of beauty school for being mean. Luann asks if Sonja and Ramona were invited to Mexico, and Ramona says she wasn’t. Luann tells them about Bethenny saying Ramona should come for a few days, since Luann is going to be late. In her interview, Ramona feels slighted for the backhanded invite.

Dorinda says Tinsley is a professional shopper and professional day drinker, amending the latter to Olympic style. Ramona tells Sonja that she didn’t feel any bad energy from Bethenny. Sonja wonders if they’re on the same planet, because she thought Bethenny seemed annoyed. In her interview, she’s sure Ramona will be going to Mexico, since she wiggles her way into everything. Maybe she can bring Christy from Little Women: LA. Ramona gets all excited when she sees that the restaurant has sent the wine that she likes. I get all excited about the food, and another fabulous sweater on Bethenny. Ramona explains that the dinner was inspired by one of Bethenny’s ideas. In her interview, Bethenny talks about how awkward Ramona must be feeling.

Bethenny thinks they should play Truth or Dare, but Carole says it’s too easy to cheat and make something up. For whatever reason, Bethenny starts it off with a really personal sex question. Tinsley answers, Dorinda is grossed out, and in her interview, Luann says it’s TMI. I’m with the Countess on this one. Sonja picks a dare, and Bethenny wants her to give the waiter a passionate kiss. He’s not exactly receptive, but Bethenny gives her props for trying. Dorinda is next for truth, and John’s penis is discussed. We’ll just leave it at that. Carole admits to having sex with George Clooney a million years ago, and rates him a nine. Carole asks Ramona how many men she’s been with since the divorce. She says three, but doesn’t count Bill Clinton’s kind of sex. The restaurant people can’t believe the conversation. Neither can I. Luann says she feels lucky to be in a relationship, and in her interview, Ramona says Luann is acting superior. Dorinda says the truth is, that Tom was out there, a lot of things were public, and everyone is tired of hearing about Palm Beach. Luann tells Dorinda not to make her feel bad about it. In her interview, Dorinda says they’re happy for her, but don’t want to hear about it anymore; they’ve got it. Bethenny says it was a rough road, but if Luann wants to revel in it, that’s fine. Dorinda says Bethenny is doing an about face.

Dorinda says she’s stuck up for Luann more than anyone. Bethenny says she understands how Luann got there. A lot of stuff happened on the way to the wedding, and it’s a human moment to want to enjoy a honeymoon phase, whereas Luann’s excessive bragging wasn’t. Luann says she made it. (She’s married!) In her interview, she’s surprised at Dorinda. Dorinda says Luann is looking at her weird, and that she’s not God. Luann says she didn’t mean for it to sound the way it did, and loves Dorinda. Carole makes a silly rhyming toast about friendship. Sonja decides to make a toast too, but manages to slip in something snarky about Tom. Carole says that’s mean-spirited toasting and she doesn’t like it. Luann says, and these are her f-ing friends.

Next time, Sonja gets electrolysis for the Mexico trip, Ramona is sure that she’s going to be invited to Mexico, Carole fixes Tinsley up, and Ramona demands respect and sympathy from Bethenny.

🍴 Both MasterChef and The f Word were reruns tonight. Which is just as well, since I spent last night running interference between small dogs and loud noises.

🌺 Little Women: LA ended their season with an 80s prom, where Tonya and Kerwin were crowned king and queen. Kerwin also asked Tonya to marry him. She said yes, but is still hesitant to get married. Briana’s husband, Matt, is still a creep, but she’s still with him. SMH. Next up is the reunion, where the latest girl that Matt has “only kissed” will be trotted out.

🎸 Dave Navarro will be guest starring – well, really guest walking by – on Odd Mom Out this season. I don’t know his music well, but I liked him so much in an interview, I’ve supported his solo efforts since then.

😆 WiFi. It’s not a question. – a character in Ford commercial

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